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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Axel Dörfler)

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Am 02/09/2014 00:28, schrieb Wayne Peter Corwin: On Tuesday, September 02, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Andrew Hudson dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I will wager that one can put Haiku on a networked PC outside the firewall for 24 hours today and it will not be hacked. $20 US. What say you, sir? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Wayne Peter Corwin)

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On Tuesday, September 02, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Andrew Hudson dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I will wager that one can put Haiku on a networked PC outside the firewall for 24 hours today and it will not be hacked. $20 US. What say you, sir? Gee, I don't know. Maybe one of these things: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Andrew Hudson)

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I will wager that one can put Haiku on a networked PC outside the firewall for 24 hours today and it will not be hacked. $20 US. What say you, sir? I am, however, hoping to put Haiku on a networked computer once it's released. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Wayne Peter Corwin)

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On Monday, September 01, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Edward Robbins edd.robbins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said: Axel's mail was informative about the state of security in haiku, and nowhere near naive unless you take that single comment out of context.  But. The thread context is R1 final (at least, I hope I made that clear). I don't worry about the alpha, nor the eventual beta. I am, however, hoping to put Haiku on a networked computer once it's released. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: Package Management (pete . goodeve)

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On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 09:59:25AM +0200, Axel Dörfler wrote: Fredrik wrote: 2014-08-31 22:31 skrev pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx: And yes, the first thing I had to do to get some of the stuff I use transferred to PM was to set up my own /boot/common. If I recal correctly common was removed just before PM was introduced. It was discussed a lot but was not adding any vital function that can be in home or system. Now with PM this are less neede. The only mention of needing /boot/common was if a company would need to use it, they can now use PM instead and make there own repository :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Edward Robbins)

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Wayne Peter Corwin wayne.peter.corwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On Monday, September 01, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx said: I think Haiku is not a worthwhile target either. Sorry, but the naive alarm went off. ...
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[haiku-development] libtool link_all_deplibs (Jérôme Duval)

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Hi, at the moment we configure libtool with link_all_deplibs = yes. This has the consequence that we link a program against each dependencies of a shared library: SDL_image for instance, and each of the libraries that depend on it, libjpeg, etc.. Haikuporter detects that and says we should declare the dependencies. This can in the long term be a difficult to maintain correct dependencies on applications using some interface libraries. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Richie Nyhus)

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I would like the features that are possible by that, like * error highlighting as I type * code completion * looking up declarations * finding /all/ places where a method is called * refactoring (at least renaming) A tiled window/widget layout designer? Wasn't there something like this around at some point? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Wayne Peter Corwin)

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On Monday, September 01, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx said: I think Haiku is not a worthwhile target either. Sorry, but the naive alarm went off. Security through obscurity is really stupid and dangerous. OS's are not targets, but people and companies are (given enough value on the system, intrudes will surely take the time to investigate Haiku). Moreover, entire ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Axel Dörfler)

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Am 01/09/2014 16:12, schrieb Wayne: I'd like to ask if multiuser capabilities (with a non-root user as default) are being implemented and if security audits will be performed before R1. Esp. the networking stack, since Haiku provides various network servers over known protocols, so a wide range of attack vectors are probably relevant for Haiku. I don't believe in security-by-obscurity :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Ryan Leavengood)

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Edward Robbins edd.robbins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Ok, this is just hypothetical, so: If everything is going to be in separate windows can they at least be dockable or with a parent window, or at least have this configurable? I definitely agree with you on that. Fortunately Haiku as a system has that covered pretty well with Stack and Tile: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Edward Robbins)

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Am 31.08.2014 um 17:01 schrieb Earl Pottinger (Redacted sender earl_colby_pottinger@xxxxxxxxx for DMARC) dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: What would a good IDE for Haiku look like and what features are really needed? An IDE needs to be better than what we have now. To me this means that ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Running gcc4 application in a gcc2 hybrid. (Fredrik Modéen)

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2014-09-01 14:21 skrev Ingo Weinhold: On 01.09.2014 12:30, Fredrik Modéen wrote: 2014-09-01 10:49 skrev Ingo Weinhold: Anyway, according to the strace output the application is loaded just fine, runs for a while, and then exits with code 0. Can you verify ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Wayne Peter Corwin)

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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 at 7:33 PM From: Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] Am 31.08.2014 um 17:01 schrieb Earl Pottinger (Redacted sender earl_colby_pottinger@xxxxxxxxx for DMARC) dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Stephan Aßmus)

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Am 31.08.2014 um 17:01 schrieb Earl Pottinger (Redacted sender earl_colby_pottinger@xxxxxxxxx for DMARC) dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: What would a good IDE for Haiku look like and what features are really needed? An IDE needs to be better than what we have now. To me this means that there is a lot more, well, „integration“. And by that I don’t mean to put make file management into the app, or GCC error and warning parsing, or everything in a single window. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Andrew Hudson)

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Andrew Hudson dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I would like to point out the there is an IDE of sorts. It's BeSuperRAD and available on Haikuware.com. Written for BeOS and kind of runs on Haiku. The author, Armondo Machado, had expressed the intent to open source the code. Unfortunately his last email is not working. If anyone expresses an interest in the code I can try to track him down. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Jigzat)

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El 1/09/2014, a las 10:16, Jigzat insecsite@xxxxxx escribió: I’m no security expert but, is a multi-user system more secure than a single-user one? how about system wide encryption or at least core components encryption during installation based on the user password and a usb recovery mechanism?. El 1/09/2014, a las 10:06, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx escribió: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Jigzat)

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I’m no security expert but, is a multi-user system more secure than a single-user one? how about system wide encryption or at least core components encryption during installation based on the user password and a usb recovery mechanism?. El 1/09/2014, a las 10:06, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx escribió: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Wayne Peter Corwin wayne.peter.corwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Ithamar R. Adema)

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Hi Augustin, On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I don't think it's worth it. The app does not actually do anything, it only looks pretty. At this point, Heidi is far ahead of BeSuperRad (and I've only been working on it for 3 weeks): (and Kacper has a PR open that adds syntax highlighting and code folding). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Security (Augustin Cavalier)

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Wayne Peter Corwin wayne.peter.corwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Well okay, so if we take away the multiuser part, what security work has been done? Or do I understand correctly that Haiku per now doesn't offer any kind of security? Not true. We use Coverity for code scanning and fix security issues that way, we try hard to stay on the latest OpenSSL (and hopefully soon we'll be ...
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