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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Pete Goodeve)

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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:00:07PM +0200, Stephan A?mus wrote: Am 30.08.2014 03:31, schrieb Pete Goodeve: As I said, I have no memory of this poll. [Undoubtedly me...!] Can someone provide a link to the archive or at least an approximate date, so I can look back at it? Thanks. The vote was *ages* ago, the results are preserved here: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Richie Nyhus)

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Hi all, While we are on the subject of package management, is the HaikuDepot website going to just be a place where packages and their details are displayed or is going to be more like a pseudo app store? By that I mean like Ubuntu's web catalogue [1], which has a front page [2] that is clearly designed for application discovery in comparison to Linux Mint's software catalogue [3]. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

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2014-08-30 09:00 skrev Fredrik Modéen: 2014-08-28 22:27 skrev Stephan Aßmus: Am 28.08.2014 um 21:58 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: 2014-08-28 21:50 skrev Stephan Aßmus: ...
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[haiku-development] Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Stephan Aßmus)

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Am 30.08.2014 22:53, schrieb François Revol: On 30/08/2014 20:54, Augustin Cavalier wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If we get Eclipse to work on Haiku, that would be hard to beat, even with ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (François Revol)

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On 29/08/2014 00:30, Yourself wrote: So now, I have an hpkg that works. Now I have to get it available. I'm really reluctant to go through the whole HaikuPorter palaver. I've spent several days on what I hoped would be a few hours' job [OK -- learning curve and all that] but it looks like trying to create a recipe -- and getting it accepted -- is going to be a further major messy undertaking that I don't have the time or motivation for at the moment. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (François Revol)

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On 30/08/2014 20:54, Augustin Cavalier wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If we get Eclipse to work on Haiku, that would be hard to beat, even with a native solution. IMO Eclipse is one of the worst IDEs out there, and porting AWT is no easy task. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If we get Eclipse to work on Haiku, that would be hard to beat, even with a native solution. IMO Eclipse is one of the worst IDEs out there, and porting AWT is no easy task. I'll have this one in a usable state within a month or two, it already can ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stefano Ceccherini)

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2014-08-30 16:31 GMT+02:00 Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx: What haiku needs is to gradually get all the applications that are needed for day to day work. Once it has a stable, modern web browser (almost there), office, some media etc apps it will start getting used a lot more. The web browser has been the biggest issue for a lot of people for a long time. +1. I'm in the process of writing an IDE ATM. We'll get there :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Stefano Ceccherini)

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Haiku's PM could be really useful as a solution of one of the biggest issues in corporate/enterprise environments: applications distribution and update. If it'd possible to have a packagefs on a network share, installing or updating an application on multiple computers would be as simple as putting a new package into this network share, and all client computers would see the updated package and make it available to the users. Too bad that we don't have any enterprise application, yet :-) 2014-08-30 16:35 GMT+02:00 Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sean Healy)

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:21:45 -0700, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: The second surprise is that package development has appeared to have declined since it was put in place. The truth is that the new package manager locked up the system to a point that package development is too tedious to work on. Well, given that there was an initial rush to convert old apps to packages, it's only natural that new packages are no longer appearing as ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 08:37:47AM -0700, James Leone wrote: I wonder how I'm being this vastly misundetstood. Haikuports: good Haikuporter: good Teamwork: good Flexibility: good /usr dir: want Write access to /: want ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

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I wonder how I'm being this vastly misundetstood. Haikuports: good Haikuporter: good Teamwork: good Flexibility: good /usr dir: want Write access to /: want Write access to / and package management: different things Organized package creation does NOT mean: haiku ports bad. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Augustin Cavalier)

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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: It happened several times now that some vocal opponents of PM have come to grasp the beauty of what has been accomplished. I think our PM solution is one of the very, very few things left that make Haiku relevant. It is something that was possible to pull off since we have complete control over the whole OS, and I think it is something that other projects will envy in time. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

1 hour 47 min ago
What haiku needs is to gradually get all the applications that are needed for day to day work. Once it has a stable, modern web browser (almost there), office, some media etc apps it will start getting used a lot more. The web browser has been the biggest issue for a lot of people for a long time. +1. I'm in the process of writing an IDE ATM. We'll get there :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Edward Robbins)

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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:21 AM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Well the package manager delivered two surprises. First one is how well it works if a package is available. It will be a dream package manager once we have a full suite of packages. The second surprise is that package development has appeared to have declined since it was put in place. ...
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[haiku-development] Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Stephan Aßmus)

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Am 30.08.2014 03:31, schrieb Pete Goodeve: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 05:43:10PM -0400, Andrew Hudson wrote: Yes, the package manager was discussed and voted on. And yes, it does provide an immense value to Haiku as an overall feature. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (François Revol)

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Hi, On 30/08/2014 02:37, Pete Goodeve wrote: You didn't mention the file requiring a patch, what exactly needs patching ? Is there a source file for it ? Sorry -- trying to be too brief. What I meant was that there is no way (that I know of) to 'patch' the original soundfont to produce the corrected version. I did ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Duplicate headers? (Ingo Weinhold)

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On 30.08.2014 08:18, James Leone wrote: Based on the order of include directory listing on the command line and whether there was a bsd/ in the include directive. So because the output from gcc -v has: .../posix .../bsd ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

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2014-08-28 22:27 skrev Stephan Aßmus: Am 28.08.2014 um 21:58 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: 2014-08-28 21:50 skrev Stephan Aßmus: Hi, Am 28.08.2014 um 21:31 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Fredrik Modéen)

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2014-08-30 03:31 skrev Pete Goodeve: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 05:43:10PM -0400, Andrew Hudson wrote: When the package manager was first proposed I was not in favor. After some discussion it was patiently explained to me that the package manager would alleviate the rat's nest of out-of-sync libraries, incompatible ...
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