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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Fredrik Holmqvist)

Sun, 2014-08-24 09:45
2014-08-21 23:32 GMT+02:00 Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: A switch to Linux would give us plenty of interesting features. Proper power management is only one of them, although I don't really think it would be all that hard to achieve for most hardware (on my Haswell based NAS, Haiku, booted from USB, only needs 1W more than Ubuntu 14.04 when idling, thanks to Pawel). I think I can help you lower that :) In the cpu-idle GSoC the reason found that we don't save more power is the ticking of network at 1000Hz and Deskbar/Tracker doing some querying. Both of these wake the ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Sun, 2014-08-24 09:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 1:26 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hi, The event is open to anyone, but you have to pay your entrance ticket (which includes the lunch). The website was not updated for this year yet but most of the information from the previous edition should still apply: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Sun, 2014-08-24 09:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 01:04:49PM +0200, Sia Lang wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, LECOQ Vincent vincent.lecoq@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello everybody, Why not use a middleway proposal : for the R2, be able to load and use binary drivers of linux ? like as a ndsiwrapper was doing on linux for use wifi windows drivers as example. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Sun, 2014-08-24 09:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, LECOQ Vincent vincent.lecoq@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello everybody, Why not use a middleway proposal : for the R2, be able to load and use binary drivers of linux ? like as a ndsiwrapper was doing on linux for use wifi windows drivers as example. The basic drivers API are not so far and a little wrapping can be usefull ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (LECOQ Vincent)

Sun, 2014-08-24 09:45
Hello everybody, Why not use a middleway proposal : for the R2, be able to load and use binary drivers of linux ? like as a ndsiwrapper was doing on linux for use wifi windows drivers as example. The basic drivers API are not so far and a little wrapping can be usefull for the missing/divergent functionnalities. And why not a source level compatibility for drivers. But its limited to the kernel drivers (so no Xorg of course,its an other ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stephan Aßmus)

Sun, 2014-08-24 09:45
Hello Sia, Am 21.08.2014 18:23, schrieb Sia Lang: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Now I am really curious to see your code. Until I see it, I have to assume you are completely underestimating the work ahead of you. Or ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ingo Weinhold)

Sun, 2014-08-24 07:45
On 21.08.2014 23:32, Axel Dörfler wrote: In short: I don't mind Sia working on this at all, I might even use it when something useful comes out of it. I just wouldn't want to work on it anymore. Well, perfect! That frees up your time to work on the important (userland) parts. :-) Assuming it means the kernel, not the whole OS. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Rene Gollent)

Sat, 2014-08-23 18:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I don't just work on Haiku to deliver my favorite OS to the masses. I also like working on it. Building a complete operating system from the ground up was a very educational, and, for the most part, fun experience. [...] Your email pretty much perfectly summarizes my thoughts on the whole thing as well. While it'd certainly be an interesting experiment to see, especially if it actually works as advertised, I don't think it'd ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Axel Dörfler)

Sat, 2014-08-23 18:45
On 08/21/2014 06:39 PM, Julian Harnath wrote: To be honest, I'm a bit disheartened by how many core contributors are expressing their complete willingness to replace our kernel with Linux (given that someone tackles the difficult work of pulling off such a switch). Just to contribute my 2 cents to the discussion: as with the eventual ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Axel Dörfler)

Sat, 2014-08-23 18:45
On 08/21/2014 07:33 PM, Sia Lang wrote: I'll stop my mailing list activity now, since Sean H. told me over mail, in clear terms, that I was no longer welcome in the project since I wasn't honourable enough in my communication style (or something to that effect) That would be a ridiculous reason. If you have something to say, keep going. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Alexander von Gluck IV)

Sat, 2014-08-23 16:45
On , Alexander von Gluck IV wrote: On , Paweł Dziepak wrote: 2014-08-21 15:15 GMT+02:00 Alexander von Gluck IV kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx: On , Ingo Weinhold wrote: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Sat, 2014-08-23 16:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:14 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: If it turns out an implementation of the BeAPI over Linux still can't work as well as we want, we can very well wait 7 more years running our current kernel, and maybe have another attempt then. This sums it up well I think. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Sat, 2014-08-23 16:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 06:39:55PM +0200, Julian Harnath wrote: Hello all, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx schrieb: Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an interesting option. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Sat, 2014-08-23 16:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Paweł Dziepak pdziepak@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: If it was at least some kind of modern, interesting kernel... then I could be persuaded to join the train, but with an archaic (design-wise) kernel like Linux... it really isn't convincing to me. I once had the 'joy' of working myself deep into a few parts of the Linux kernel sources, and what I saw was certainly not pretty. Working inside the Haiku kernel was a great experience in comparison! ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Paweł Dziepak)

Sat, 2014-08-23 16:45
2014-08-21 18:39 GMT+02:00 Julian Harnath julian.harnath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Hello all, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx schrieb: Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an interesting option. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Julian Harnath)

Sat, 2014-08-23 16:45
Hello all, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx schrieb: Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an interesting option. To be honest, I'm a bit disheartened by how many core contributors are ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Sat, 2014-08-23 06:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Now I am really curious to see your code. Until I see it, I have to assume you are completely underestimating the work ahead of you. Or maybe we have a very different idea of decent shape. I would love to understand/see your definition. Heh, lame insult attempts doesn't work on me. I'm putting the code out ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stephan Aßmus)

Fri, 2014-08-22 19:45
Hi Sia, Am 20.08.2014 18:26, schrieb Sia Lang: what I'm saying is that with only two months of sporadic work on a BeAPI/Linux hybrid, things are looking rather promising. Initially, you said app, interface and networking kits already in ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ingo Weinhold)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
On 21.08.2014 17:44, James Leone wrote: In 2007 the os was an amazing feat. Haiku's developrs are like Michael Jordan or Wilt Chamberlan. Hall of famers I say. But we aren't playing basketball anymore. Were playing baseball. Michael Jordan did pretty good in baseball but its a different game so to speak. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
In 2007 the os was an amazing feat. Haiku's developrs are like Michael Jordan or Wilt Chamberlan. Hall of famers I say. But we aren't playing basketball anymore. Were playing baseball. Michael Jordan did pretty good in baseball but its a different game so to speak. ...
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