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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Rene Gollent)

4 hours 39 min ago
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I don't just work on Haiku to deliver my favorite OS to the masses. I also like working on it. Building a complete operating system from the ground up was a very educational, and, for the most part, fun experience. [...] Your email pretty much perfectly summarizes my thoughts on the whole thing as well. While it'd certainly be an interesting experiment to see, especially if it actually works as advertised, I don't think it'd ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Axel Dörfler)

4 hours 39 min ago
On 08/21/2014 06:39 PM, Julian Harnath wrote: To be honest, I'm a bit disheartened by how many core contributors are expressing their complete willingness to replace our kernel with Linux (given that someone tackles the difficult work of pulling off such a switch). Just to contribute my 2 cents to the discussion: as with the eventual ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Axel Dörfler)

4 hours 39 min ago
On 08/21/2014 07:33 PM, Sia Lang wrote: I'll stop my mailing list activity now, since Sean H. told me over mail, in clear terms, that I was no longer welcome in the project since I wasn't honourable enough in my communication style (or something to that effect) That would be a ridiculous reason. If you have something to say, keep going. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Alexander von Gluck IV)

4 hours 39 min ago
On , Alexander von Gluck IV wrote: On , Paweł Dziepak wrote: 2014-08-21 15:15 GMT+02:00 Alexander von Gluck IV kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx: On , Ingo Weinhold wrote: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

4 hours 39 min ago
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:14 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: If it turns out an implementation of the BeAPI over Linux still can't work as well as we want, we can very well wait 7 more years running our current kernel, and maybe have another attempt then. This sums it up well I think. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

4 hours 39 min ago
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 06:39:55PM +0200, Julian Harnath wrote: Hello all, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx schrieb: Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an interesting option. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

4 hours 39 min ago
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Paweł Dziepak pdziepak@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: If it was at least some kind of modern, interesting kernel... then I could be persuaded to join the train, but with an archaic (design-wise) kernel like Linux... it really isn't convincing to me. I once had the 'joy' of working myself deep into a few parts of the Linux kernel sources, and what I saw was certainly not pretty. Working inside the Haiku kernel was a great experience in comparison! ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Paweł Dziepak)

4 hours 39 min ago
2014-08-21 18:39 GMT+02:00 Julian Harnath julian.harnath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Hello all, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx schrieb: Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an interesting option. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Julian Harnath)

4 hours 39 min ago
Hello all, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx schrieb: Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an interesting option. To be honest, I'm a bit disheartened by how many core contributors are ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

4 hours 39 min ago
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Now I am really curious to see your code. Until I see it, I have to assume you are completely underestimating the work ahead of you. Or maybe we have a very different idea of decent shape. I would love to understand/see your definition. Heh, lame insult attempts doesn't work on me. I'm putting the code out ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stephan Aßmus)

Fri, 2014-08-22 19:45
Hi Sia, Am 20.08.2014 18:26, schrieb Sia Lang: what I'm saying is that with only two months of sporadic work on a BeAPI/Linux hybrid, things are looking rather promising. Initially, you said app, interface and networking kits already in ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ingo Weinhold)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
On 21.08.2014 17:44, James Leone wrote: In 2007 the os was an amazing feat. Haiku's developrs are like Michael Jordan or Wilt Chamberlan. Hall of famers I say. But we aren't playing basketball anymore. Were playing baseball. Michael Jordan did pretty good in baseball but its a different game so to speak. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
In 2007 the os was an amazing feat. Haiku's developrs are like Michael Jordan or Wilt Chamberlan. Hall of famers I say. But we aren't playing basketball anymore. Were playing baseball. Michael Jordan did pretty good in baseball but its a different game so to speak. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
Real deal is the guys have tried too hqrd... do too many things to make things good that nothing really works. Its like they are trying to make the fastest racecar that has the most fuel efficient engine ever. On Aug 21, 2014 8:11 AM, Alexander von Gluck IV kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On , Paweł Dziepak wrote: 2014-08-21 15:15 GMT+02:00 Alexander von Gluck IV ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Alexander von Gluck IV)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
On , Paweł Dziepak wrote: 2014-08-21 15:15 GMT+02:00 Alexander von Gluck IV kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx: On , Ingo Weinhold wrote: On 20.08.2014 18:26, Sia Lang wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ryan Leavengood ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
Whatever. Can you please get it in your head that there was and is currently no plan that R2 will drop binary compatibility? It has been mentioned to you on several occasions before. ;-) The primary architecture of Haiku can be switched. Most likely after R1. That does *not* mean we have to drop binary compatibility as well, and why would we? We can build GCC2 compatibility system libs for as long as we think it makes sense. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 04:25:44PM +0200, Stephan Aßmus wrote: Am 21.08.2014 15:40, schrieb pulkomandy: Not sure if we want to encourage such a thing... our developer pool is small enough as it is lately. Definitely for others working on something Linux based in a friendly compitition though. Food for thought, I don't think the linux kernel will build under gcc2 :-) And that's why no one suggested we swith NOW for R1. As R2 will drop binary compat, it might be a good time to do the switch, after R1 is ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Paweł Dziepak)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
2014-08-21 15:15 GMT+02:00 Alexander von Gluck IV kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx: On , Ingo Weinhold wrote: On 20.08.2014 18:26, Sia Lang wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ryan Leavengood leavengood@xxxxxxxxx wrote: It is a lot to ask the Haiku community to abandon our current approach ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Alexander von Gluck IV kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Not sure if we want to encourage such a thing... our developer pool is small enough as it is lately. Definitely for others working on something Linux based in a friendly compitition though. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stephan Aßmus)

Fri, 2014-08-22 17:45
Am 21.08.2014 15:40, schrieb pulkomandy: Not sure if we want to encourage such a thing... our developer pool is small enough as it is lately. Definitely for others working on something Linux based in a friendly compitition though. Food for thought, I don't think the linux kernel will build under gcc2 :-) ...
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