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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (pete . goodeve)

Tue, 2014-09-02 02:45
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 09:48:37AM -0400, Augustin Cavalier wrote: No. We don't want or need a common directory. If you are unable to just use nonpackaged, you can create one yourself -- / is still writable. A bald opinion is not a justification... And yes, the first thing I had to do to get some of the stuff I use transferred to PM was to set up my own /boot/common. But this is the problem, isn't it? There is no discussion -- only 'fiat'. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Earl Pottinger)

Tue, 2014-09-02 02:45
What would a good IDE for Haiku look like and what features are really needed? On Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:37:11 PM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Am 30.08.2014 22:53, schrieb François Revol: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Augustin Cavalier)

Tue, 2014-09-02 02:45
No. We don't want or need a common directory. If you are unable to just use nonpackaged, you can create one yourself -- / is still writable. -Augustin ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Wayne Peter Corwin)

Tue, 2014-09-02 00:45
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 at 1:16 PM From: Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] Am 31/08/2014 10:40, schrieb Ingo Weinhold: Thinking of Java-based IDEs, NetBeans should already work, no? Yes it does! But it's still just NetBeans (and sucks terribly at all the ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Axel Dörfler)

Mon, 2014-09-01 22:45
Am 31/08/2014 10:40, schrieb Ingo Weinhold: Thinking of Java-based IDEs, NetBeans should already work, no? Yes it does! But it's still just NetBeans (and sucks terribly at all the small details) :-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Ingo Weinhold)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
On 30.08.2014 23:36, Stephan Aßmus wrote: Am 30.08.2014 22:53, schrieb François Revol: On 30/08/2014 20:54, Augustin Cavalier wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Pete Goodeve)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
At its most basic, just create, say, ~/usr, and edit ~/config/settings/boot/UserBootScript to add the line: Sorry -- miscapitalized... : UserBootscript -- Pete -- ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Pete Goodeve)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:14:55PM -0700, James Leone wrote: So for me, its not impossible to do without a /usr directory (or an arm), but with a larger workload, less gets done. Less apps, less people. Less people, less apps, more bozos like me trying to compile. Just FYI, if you want a /usr directory *for your own use*, there is nothing to stop you setting it up. I did this long ago in BeOS because X11 and other things *did* need that available. Never needed it in Haiku, though. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Sean Healy jalopeura@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:21:45 -0700, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: The second surprise is that package development has appeared to have declined since it was put in place. The truth is that the new package manager locked up the system to a point that package development is too tedious to work on. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (Pete Goodeve)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Fran?ois Revol wrote: On 29/08/2014 00:30, Yourself wrote: So now, I have an hpkg that works. Now I have to get it available. I'm really reluctant to go through the whole HaikuPorter palaver. How goes it with the recipe? It doesn't at the moment I'm afraid... I've got too many other things to think about at the moment to get involved with the whole ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Pete Goodeve)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:00:07PM +0200, Stephan A?mus wrote: Am 30.08.2014 03:31, schrieb Pete Goodeve: As I said, I have no memory of this poll. [Undoubtedly me...!] Can someone provide a link to the archive or at least an approximate date, so I can look back at it? Thanks. The vote was *ages* ago, the results are preserved here: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Richie Nyhus)

Mon, 2014-09-01 20:45
Hi all, While we are on the subject of package management, is the HaikuDepot website going to just be a place where packages and their details are displayed or is going to be more like a pseudo app store? By that I mean like Ubuntu's web catalogue [1], which has a front page [2] that is clearly designed for application discovery in comparison to Linux Mint's software catalogue [3]. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

Mon, 2014-09-01 18:45
2014-08-30 09:00 skrev Fredrik Modéen: 2014-08-28 22:27 skrev Stephan Aßmus: Am 28.08.2014 um 21:58 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: 2014-08-28 21:50 skrev Stephan Aßmus: ...
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[haiku-development] Creating or porting an IDE [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Stephan Aßmus)

Mon, 2014-09-01 18:45
Am 30.08.2014 22:53, schrieb François Revol: On 30/08/2014 20:54, Augustin Cavalier wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If we get Eclipse to work on Haiku, that would be hard to beat, even with ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (François Revol)

Mon, 2014-09-01 18:45
On 29/08/2014 00:30, Yourself wrote: So now, I have an hpkg that works. Now I have to get it available. I'm really reluctant to go through the whole HaikuPorter palaver. I've spent several days on what I hoped would be a few hours' job [OK -- learning curve and all that] but it looks like trying to create a recipe -- and getting it accepted -- is going to be a further major messy undertaking that I don't have the time or motivation for at the moment. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (François Revol)

Mon, 2014-09-01 18:45
On 30/08/2014 20:54, Augustin Cavalier wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If we get Eclipse to work on Haiku, that would be hard to beat, even with a native solution. IMO Eclipse is one of the worst IDEs out there, and porting AWT is no easy task. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Mon, 2014-09-01 16:45
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefano Ceccherini stefano.ceccherini@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If we get Eclipse to work on Haiku, that would be hard to beat, even with a native solution. IMO Eclipse is one of the worst IDEs out there, and porting AWT is no easy task. I'll have this one in a usable state within a month or two, it already can ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stefano Ceccherini)

Mon, 2014-09-01 16:45
2014-08-30 16:31 GMT+02:00 Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx: What haiku needs is to gradually get all the applications that are needed for day to day work. Once it has a stable, modern web browser (almost there), office, some media etc apps it will start getting used a lot more. The web browser has been the biggest issue for a lot of people for a long time. +1. I'm in the process of writing an IDE ATM. We'll get there :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Package Management [was Re: What's the status of Haiku?] (Stefano Ceccherini)

Mon, 2014-09-01 16:45
Haiku's PM could be really useful as a solution of one of the biggest issues in corporate/enterprise environments: applications distribution and update. If it'd possible to have a packagefs on a network share, installing or updating an application on multiple computers would be as simple as putting a new package into this network share, and all client computers would see the updated package and make it available to the users. Too bad that we don't have any enterprise application, yet :-) 2014-08-30 16:35 GMT+02:00 Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sean Healy)

Mon, 2014-09-01 16:45
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:21:45 -0700, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: The second surprise is that package development has appeared to have declined since it was put in place. The truth is that the new package manager locked up the system to a point that package development is too tedious to work on. Well, given that there was an initial rush to convert old apps to packages, it's only natural that new packages are no longer appearing as ...
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