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[haiku-development] Re: Sockets (Donn Cave)

15 hours 40 min ago
quoth Sean Healy, The Be Book says Socket tokens are not file descriptors (this violates the BSD tradition). Is this still the case in Haiku? No! Finally one I know - but really, maybe someone could point you to an update on what Haiku is, relative to BeOS. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (James Leone)

15 hours 40 min ago
I know what Haiku ports is. Wow 20 members. Impressive. I know how to patch. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4:31 PM, scottmc scottmc2@xxxxxxxxx wrote: ...
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[haiku-development] Sockets (Sean Healy)

15 hours 40 min ago
The Be Book says Socket tokens are not file descriptors (this violates the BSD tradition). Is this still the case in Haiku? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Pete Goodeve)

15 hours 40 min ago
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 05:43:10PM -0400, Andrew Hudson wrote: When the package manager was first proposed I was not in favor. After some discussion it was patiently explained to me that the package manager would alleviate the rat's nest of out-of-sync libraries, incompatible library versions for different apps that use the same library but different versions. It was also explained that the package manager could be used to manage all the complexities that come with Haiku32 Haiku64. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Pete Goodeve)

15 hours 40 min ago
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:05:46AM +0200, Fran?ois Revol wrote: On 29/08/2014 23:14, pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I'm fairly sure that my past week's task of getting a fixed soundfont into the system is of absolutely no importance to anyone. (Does anyone ever use MidiPlayer?) All the uphill climbing to evolve a recipe, and *then* get someone to commit it just doesn't inspire any sense of 'fun' (:-/) Especially as in this case a recipe is pretty much overkill. It can't 'patch' ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (scottmc)

15 hours 40 min ago
If it is yes, I think Haiku needs to put in place a strategy for package creation that involves the community. Something like what the Debian Project does. Multiple people could compile and package applications they have volunteered to take responsibility for. But only as much as they can manage. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (James Leone)

22 hours 40 min ago
Dear Mr. Cavalier, Did you see this: On 29/08/2014 00:30, Yourself wrote: So now, I have an hpkg that works. Now I have to get it available. I'm really reluctant to go through the whole HaikuPorter palaver. I've spent several days on what I hoped would be a few hours' job [OK -- learning curve and all that] but it looks like trying to create ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (François Revol)

22 hours 40 min ago
On 29/08/2014 23:14, pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I'm fairly sure that my past week's task of getting a fixed soundfont into the system is of absolutely no importance to anyone. (Does anyone ever use MidiPlayer?) All the uphill climbing to evolve a recipe, and *then* get someone to commit it just doesn't inspire any sense of 'fun' (:-/) Especially as in this case a recipe is pretty much overkill. It can't 'patch' the original fauly file, so all that's important is the package itself. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Andrew Hudson)

22 hours 40 min ago
When the package manager was first proposed I was not in favor. After some discussion it was patiently explained to me that the package manager would alleviate the rat's nest of out-of-sync libraries, incompatible library versions for different apps that use the same library but different versions. It was also explained that the package manager could be used to manage all the complexities that come with Haiku32 Haiku64. The package manager keeps Haiku from away from 'DLL Hell' that plagued early ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pete . goodeve)

22 hours 40 min ago
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 09:18:41AM +0200, Axel Dörfler wrote: Ryan wrote: I think if there is to be any hope, there needs to be some serious focus. No more going off on wild tangents like the package management. An amazing amount of work (and quite a bit of money) went into that and if we are really honest it probably was not as important as it was made out to be. I completely understand the desire to make it, but if a project manager was trying to ship a product to make money, would they have worked on that or maybe put it off for later? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (David Ferguson)

Sun, 2014-08-31 22:45
I am not sure. I can recreate them at will on my laptop. Sometime this weekend I am going to download an newer nightly and try it again. I have already opened two tickets a few weeks ago. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Andrew Hudson dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I was referring to WebPositve. I just have a lot of crashes with it. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Andrew Hudson)

Sun, 2014-08-31 22:45
I was referring to WebPositve. I just have a lot of crashes with it. I had a reproducible WebPositive crash and I reported it. But it could not be independently verified. Turned out it was specific to a marginal laptop. I retired the laptop. Are your WebPositive crashed reproducible and independently verifiable? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Andrew Hudson)

Sun, 2014-08-31 20:45
? François. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Duplicate headers? (Augustin Cavalier)

Sun, 2014-08-31 20:45
On Aug 29, 2014 11:48 AM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I noticed that some code that includes headers i.e. *.h wants to read the /boot/system/develop and .../develop/posix and .../develop/bsd directorories. Similarly, sys/*.h would read from both of these: ....posix/sys and .....bsd/sys. We have 9 duplicates amongst theze directories. How does the compiler know which one to pick? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (Augustin Cavalier)

Sun, 2014-08-31 20:45
Dear Mr. Leone: Please quit hijacking discussions. Don't make us create a private devs-only ML. -Frustrated Developer ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Wayne Peter Corwin)

Sun, 2014-08-31 16:45
Friday, August 29, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Ari Haviv arielbhaviv@xxxxxxxxx said  You can't just hire someone, call him a 'leader' and expect that everyone will just listen to him when he says yes and no in a seemingly arbitrary fashion because it is the right thing to do. A leader has to lay out a vision that's compelling enough for everyone else to say Yeah, I have my pet issue but I'll put that aside because what this guy is saying is what I really want to see. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ari Haviv)

Sun, 2014-08-31 14:45
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Wayne Peter Corwin wayne.peter.corwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On Friday, August 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Humdinger humdingerb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hi there! On 29 August 2014 06:38, Ryan Leavengood leavengood@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Haiku needs a project manager but that isn't a fun job and tends to ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Wayne Peter Corwin)

Sun, 2014-08-31 12:45
On Friday, August 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Humdinger humdingerb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hi there! On 29 August 2014 06:38, Ryan Leavengood leavengood@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Haiku needs a project manager but that isn't a fun job and tends to cost quite a bit if we wanted to hire someone. [...] In any case, I think focused Haiku development comes from the bottom ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (James Leone)

Sun, 2014-08-31 12:45
François, What you have is an extraordinarily good system there. Commercial class. Good documentation. I imagine that hours of effort is behind this. The quality is where Haiku wants to end up. But right now, the requirements, to an individual on his own, amount to a swarm of bees. What we want is for the task to be a mere gnat. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Jigzat)

Sun, 2014-08-31 08:45
El 28/08/2014, a las 23:38, Ryan Leavengood leavengood@xxxxxxxxx escribió: I'll take responsibility for claiming R1 would be released in 2013 or whatever I said in that IEEE Spectrum article. I was being stupid/optimistic/unrealistic or whatever one wants to think. I have been there in software development. Soon means two very different things to clients and to developers. I’m not a regular poster although I have been following Haiku since the beginning and I don’t want to ignite ire or anything ...
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