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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (that way)

Tue, 2014-08-26 07:45
you need to calm down Apollo. sia is offering to do tons of work. what if it turns out great? isn't that of benefit to the beos community? if not, then we move on. this doesn't affect the current Haiku project at all except spending some time on this thread. -------- Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 at 1:11 PM From: Dee Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Tue, 2014-08-26 07:45
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Dee Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Until you show actual results, this is nothing more than an embrace extend strategy -copied from Microsoft implemented poorly. Apollo Demetrious Sharpe Embrace and extend? I'm doing an open source *alternative*, what the heck ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Tue, 2014-08-26 05:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Ryan Leavengood leavengood@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Lastly while I know a long-time goal of Haiku has been to be a complete, integrated system, it is also just smart engineering to not overly couple (as in coupling) the major parts of the system. If we can make it so that a Haiku userland can run on a few kernels, that would be a net benefit. People could choose which system to use and which system to work on, and if in the end the Linux kernel version became most popular (probably for pragmatic reasons), then so be it, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Dee Sharpe)

Tue, 2014-08-26 05:45
On Aug 24, 2014, at 4:46 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Why not take advantage of that, and get usb3 and hardware accelerated graphics while you're at it? BTW, there're far more impressive Unix hardware accelerated graphics stacks than what Linux is offering, so don't act as if this project would be receiving the Crown Jewels. I'm not ignorant of the Unix world. My background is Solaris FreeBSD. I see this for what it really is -the Linux mindset that the Linux kernel should replace every other kernel on the planet because it's just that good. Well, it's ok, but it doesn't fit every case you Linux guys need to get ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Tue, 2014-08-26 05:45
You're making big claims based on Linux running in a Linux setup executing Linux software. Show us Linux running in a Haiku setup executing Haiku software. Will do. Sia. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Tue, 2014-08-26 01:45
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, A. D. Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On 8/22/2014 1:08 PM, Sia Lang wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM, A. D. Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: You know, I probably have no right to comment on this, but I'm sick of people trying to divert the development of other alternative operating ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Dee Sharpe)

Mon, 2014-08-25 23:45
On Aug 24, 2014, at 4:46 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:52 AM, A. D. Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On 8/22/2014 11:10 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: If such a bastardized (?) Haiku on Linux kernel (Laiku?) were available for download, I might well try it, if it could run from a USB stick or GPT hard-drive partition. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

Mon, 2014-08-25 23:45
2014-08-24 09:35 skrev pulkomandy: Hi, You should put the package in home/config/packages. If there is a problem with it, the package manager will tell you using a BNotification or an error window. You can also check the syslog to see when it becomes ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 21:45
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:52 AM, A. D. Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On 8/22/2014 11:10 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: If such a bastardized (?) Haiku on Linux kernel (Laiku?) were available for download, I might well try it, if it could run from a USB stick or GPT hard-drive partition. There would be the feeling that if it were on a Linux kernel, I might ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (A. D. Sharpe)

Mon, 2014-08-25 21:45
On 8/22/2014 11:10 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: If such a bastardized (?) Haiku on Linux kernel (Laiku?) were available for download, I might well try it, if it could run from a USB stick or GPT hard-drive partition. There would be the feeling that if it were on a Linux kernel, I might prefer a non-Haiku/BeOS interface. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (A. D. Sharpe)

Mon, 2014-08-25 21:45
On 8/22/2014 1:08 PM, Sia Lang wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM, A. D. Sharpe wrote: You know, I probably have no right to comment on this, but I'm sick of people trying to divert the development of other alternative operating systems turn them into yet another Unix ...
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[haiku-development] Renaming folders in ~/config or /system (Humdinger)

Mon, 2014-08-25 21:45
Hi there! TigerKidd asked on IRC about ticket #10123 Add warning alert to critical folders in ~/config [1]. I don't think the ticket as-is is valid anymore. Before changing it, I'd like to discuss how the behaviour should be. Currently there are the read-only folders of the PM in ~/config and /system (e.g. add-ons, bin, lib). Renaming them doesn't work (though Tracker's menu item Edit name isn't ghosted). Deleting results in a ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (pulkomandy)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 09:39:46AM +0200, Fredrik Modéen wrote: Hi I have done a package of VMware 1.1.0 addons but I would like to test it locally. I tried to put it in Home/config/packages/administration (or some thing like that) but it didn't show up in the packagemanager app. So have are this the right location och are the package wrong in any way (Can I debug a package?) When I'm done I would like to have commit access to ...
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[haiku-development] Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
Hi I have done a package of VMware 1.1.0 addons but I would like to test it locally. I tried to put it in Home/config/packages/administration (or some thing like that) but it didn't show up in the packagemanager app. So have are this the right location och are the package wrong in any way (Can I debug a package?) ...
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[haiku-development] Updating my Haiku branch (Fredrik Modéen)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
Hi I some time ago I did this clone of Haiku. ) I have it local on my Haiku building image but now to my question, It's probably a standard GIT question but as scary GIT is and how long a GIT command can be I rather have the answer from some one here :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ryan Leavengood)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I think becoming a serious alternative is Haiku's goal too. I agree. That certainly is the case for me. At the end of the day I'm pragmatic and I would *love* for Haiku to be a viable (maybe even great) alternative to Mac OS X or Linux for my day to day work and computer use. The fact that it really isn't even close is a big reason I've lost motivation to work on it (of course I ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Simon Taylor simontaylor1@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Haiku works well on VirtualBox, and that for me is more than enough time for me to boot it up, play with it for a few minutes, remember the “feel” of BeOS that I enjoyed back in the day My goal is a BeOS clone that's a starting point for an OS that can be used daily for serious stuff on a wide variety of hardware. A hobbyist OS to ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Simon Taylor)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
Hi all, I’m amazed at the level of courtesy that has been demonstrated to Sia throughout this discussion, and I thank everyone for that as the thread has touched on some interesting issues around what is “the point” of Haiku and the reasons that motivate the various contributors to work on it. On 22 Aug 2014, at 21:08, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: […] If you read the thread carefully, at least some long-time Haiku project ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Alessandro almir159@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello, I only support Haiku financially (about 50$ for year in donation + about 25$ for year using goodsearch), but in future (not remote future) I would like to become an Haiku developer. I have no right to say anything but I think the decision should be taken from the heads of the project. I like the kernel architecture of Haiku (microkernel) but, I repeat, I ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Alessandro)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
Hello, I only support Haiku financially (about 50$ for year in donation + about 25$ for year using goodsearch), but in future (not remote future) I would like to become an Haiku developer. I have no right to say anything but I think the decision should be taken from the heads of the project. I like the kernel architecture of Haiku (microkernel) but, I repeat, I ...
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