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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I hope to trade my Star Trek fonts (and a first round true type font to be named later) for hard links and a /usr directory so I'll get my dream operating system. You don't have to: you can install your Star Trek fonts already (although we don't have a GUI to do this quite yet) as well as most TTFs (we use Freetype to draw fonts IIRC). However, we'll never have a /usr directory, we have /system instead, which is much the equivalent but is not writeable. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I absolutely agree that these guys are fantastic and do impressive work, although in a misguided direction in my opinion. What direction would that be? Have you been reading the commits regularly, like I have (for at least a year now?) I think that most of the commits go to either bugfixes or changes so the OS is more compatible with ported software (we have Qt now for instance). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: The main grief we have with Linux is that everything there seems to need manual tuning, whereas we go for a system that just works, out of the box. The result of this, on the Linux side, is a quite fragmented ecosystem with GNU/Linux distributions preconfigured for certain tasks, and some non-GNU usues of Linux for example in Android. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
I hope to trade my Star Trek fonts (and a first round true type font to be named later) for hard links and a /usr directory so I'll get my dream operating system. On Aug 18, 2014 7:24 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: These guys have done fantastic and I think with a few minor decision changes this operating system would be much further along. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Wed, 2014-08-20 21:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: These guys have done fantastic and I think with a few minor decision changes this operating system would be much further along. I absolutely agree that these guys are fantastic and do impressive work, although in a misguided direction in my opinion. I do not, however, agree that minor decision changes will cut it. Moving ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Wed, 2014-08-20 21:45
On Aug 18, 2014 6:04 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. Even though I am helplessly underskilled I've decided to see what spontaneous generationof application compilations in pkgsrc might end up producing. So far 800 so packages but not anything impressive yet. I know I have some Star Trek fonts and a few text browsers. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Wed, 2014-08-20 19:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:03:37PM +0200, Sia Lang wrote: Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. Hi, We made a lot of progress since 2007. There were four alpha releases already, and we added support for WiFi, package management, and a modern web browser. This is quite an achievement for our small team of developers. ...
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[haiku-development] What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Wed, 2014-08-20 19:45
Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. Maybe I'm wrong, as I find it hard to figure out the actual state of Haiku. On my machine, it kinda works, but there's clearly also several critical bugs. Could someone please give the audience a rough estimate on when to expect the first release? I'm asking this in no small part due to having a working prototype BeOS API ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (François Revol)

Wed, 2014-08-20 19:45
On 18/08/2014 07:54, Thomas Mueller wrote: from Ingo Weinhold and my last message: On 17.08.2014 04:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: There is another problem, HOST_SFDISK ?= sfdisk ; which does not exist in NetBSD or FreeBSD base system. I think it is (was?) used in the ARM build. It isn't used in the regular x86* builds, so you can ignore it, if you want to focus on those. ...
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[haiku-development] Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (Thomas Mueller)

Wed, 2014-08-20 17:45
from Ingo Weinhold and my last message: On 17.08.2014 04:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: There is another problem, HOST_SFDISK ?= sfdisk ; which does not exist in NetBSD or FreeBSD base system. I think it is (was?) used in the ARM build. It isn't used in the regular x86* builds, so you can ignore it, if you want to focus on those. Seeing HOST_SFDISK in BuildConfig made me nervous. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Release manager (Humdinger)

Wed, 2014-08-20 15:45
Hi Daniel! On 17 August 2014 05:32, Daniel Stritt danielstritt@xxxxxxx wrote: Anywhere I can go to learn proper ways of how to submit patches for review? For this info and more, have a look at the dev wiki [1]. Nice to see you uncloak from lurk-mode. :) Regards, Humdinger ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (Ingo Weinhold)

Wed, 2014-08-20 15:45
On 17.08.2014 04:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: There is another problem, HOST_SFDISK ?= sfdisk ; which does not exist in NetBSD or FreeBSD base system. I think it is (was?) used in the ARM build. It isn't used in the regular x86* builds, so you can ignore it, if you want to focus on those. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Release manager (Daniel Stritt)

Wed, 2014-08-20 13:45
I have been a programmer for a while, still learning the BeAPI, but it's going smoothly. Maybe I will tackle a bug or 2 to see if I can do it. Anywhere I can go to learn proper ways of how to submit patches for review? Thanks Daniel On Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:21 PM, Augustin Cavalier ...
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[haiku-development] Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (Thomas Mueller)

Wed, 2014-08-20 13:45
from Ingo Weinhold and my last message: On 08/08/2014 04:22 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: from Ingo Weinhold: Please have a look at the ChecksumFileSHA256 actions [1] and verify on the command line that whatever HOST_EXTENDED_REGEX_SED and HOST_SHA256 values you use actually work in this situation. Different (quasi-)Unixes have different names for sha1 and related. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Release manager (Augustin Cavalier)

Wed, 2014-08-20 05:45
On Aug 16, 2014 7:57 PM, Daniel Stritt danielstritt@xxxxxxx wrote: Just a thought, I figured I could donate my free time to helping Haiku. I've already tried and failed for two reasons: 1. We're not ready for a release (HaikuPorts stability issues, system flakiness, etc.) 2. Commit access is a must and I didn't get it in time. The first problem should be solved in a few months. The second (for me anyway) will be solved as soon as Stephan commits my JSON parser (and maybe ...
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[haiku-development] Release manager (Daniel Stritt)

Tue, 2014-08-19 13:45
I was wondering, there was a lot of talk about needing a release manager for the next Haiku release. I wanted to know what special skills are required for doing that job? I know I am really an unknown, been in the Haiku community for over a year, but I usually lurk, and collect info from answered questions. But seeing as how I am not working, and when i get a job it will be part time. Not married, no kids (I love being single), so no family issues to get in the way (I am 36 if you were wondering). Just a thought, I figured I could donate my free time to helping Haiku What do you people think? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: pc_serial? (François Revol)

Tue, 2014-08-19 09:45
On 16/08/2014 17:28, François Revol wrote: On 16/08/2014 04:40, Pete Goodeve wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:48:13AM +0200, Fran?ois Revol wrote: On 16/08/2014 01:48, Pete Goodeve wrote: Hi All, I was never aware of the absence of a serial port driver on Haiku. In fact I thought I'd actually used it once, but I guess not! I've just checked back trough several years of systems and it's not on any of them. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: pc_serial? (François Revol)

Tue, 2014-08-19 07:45
On 16/08/2014 04:40, Pete Goodeve wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:48:13AM +0200, Fran?ois Revol wrote: On 16/08/2014 01:48, Pete Goodeve wrote: Hi All, I was never aware of the absence of a serial port driver on Haiku. In fact I thought I'd actually used it once, but I guess not! I've just checked back trough several years of systems and it's not on any of them. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: pc_serial? (Pete Goodeve)

Tue, 2014-08-19 05:45
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:48:13AM +0200, Fran?ois Revol wrote: On 16/08/2014 01:48, Pete Goodeve wrote: Hi All, I was never aware of the absence of a serial port driver on Haiku. In fact I thought I'd actually used it once, but I guess not! I've just checked back trough several years of systems and it's not on any of them. Yet I see that pc_serial code is in the source tree. Can it be built ...
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[haiku-development] Re: pc_serial? (François Revol)

Tue, 2014-08-19 05:45
On 16/08/2014 01:48, Pete Goodeve wrote: Hi All, I was never aware of the absence of a serial port driver on Haiku. In fact I thought I'd actually used it once, but I guess not! I've just checked back trough several years of systems and it's not on any of them. Yet I see that pc_serial code is in the source tree. Can it be built and installed? (And run...) Or is there some conflict? ...
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