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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Thu, 2014-08-21 13:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Hm. It sounds like you are pragmatic. You just want your working BeOS clone. But I don't completely buy it. There must be a fun component for you as well. :-) Thanks for your insightful post, Stephan. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Thu, 2014-08-21 13:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: A direction involving an existing kernel and set of drivers so my GPUs and obscure devices can be used. You have not listed what devices those are that we don't support yet. File bugs and we'll work on it; in some cases this is as simple as adding a device ID to a driver configuration (say, half the time this is the case). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stephan Aßmus)

Thu, 2014-08-21 13:45
Hi Sia, Am 18.08.2014 15:03, schrieb Sia Lang: Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Thu, 2014-08-21 13:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 04:32:16PM +0200, Sia Lang wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: The main grief we have with Linux is that everything there seems to need manual tuning, whereas we go for a system that just works, out of the box. The result of this, on the Linux side, is a quite fragmented ecosystem with GNU/Linux distributions preconfigured for certain tasks, and some non-GNU usues of Linux for example in Android. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I absolutely agree that these guys are fantastic and do impressive work, although in a misguided direction in my opinion. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
Thank you for explanation. I knew about the system non writeable. On Aug 18, 2014 7:43 AM, Augustin Cavalier ajcsweb@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I hope to trade my Star Trek fonts (and a first round true type font to be named later) for hard links and a /usr directory so I'll get my dream operating system. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I hope to trade my Star Trek fonts (and a first round true type font to be named later) for hard links and a /usr directory so I'll get my dream operating system. You don't have to: you can install your Star Trek fonts already (although we don't have a GUI to do this quite yet) as well as most TTFs (we use Freetype to draw fonts IIRC). However, we'll never have a /usr directory, we have /system instead, which is much the equivalent but is not writeable. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I hope to trade my Star Trek fonts (and a first round true type font to be named later) for hard links and a /usr directory so I'll get my dream operating system. You don't have to: you can install your Star Trek fonts already (although we don't have a GUI to do this quite yet) as well as most TTFs (we use Freetype to draw fonts IIRC). However, we'll never have a /usr directory, we have /system instead, which is much the equivalent but is not writeable. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I absolutely agree that these guys are fantastic and do impressive work, although in a misguided direction in my opinion. What direction would that be? Have you been reading the commits regularly, like I have (for at least a year now?) I think that most of the commits go to either bugfixes or changes so the OS is more compatible with ported software (we have Qt now for instance). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: The main grief we have with Linux is that everything there seems to need manual tuning, whereas we go for a system that just works, out of the box. The result of this, on the Linux side, is a quite fragmented ecosystem with GNU/Linux distributions preconfigured for certain tasks, and some non-GNU usues of Linux for example in Android. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Thu, 2014-08-21 09:45
I hope to trade my Star Trek fonts (and a first round true type font to be named later) for hard links and a /usr directory so I'll get my dream operating system. On Aug 18, 2014 7:24 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: These guys have done fantastic and I think with a few minor decision changes this operating system would be much further along. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Wed, 2014-08-20 21:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM, James Leone linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx wrote: These guys have done fantastic and I think with a few minor decision changes this operating system would be much further along. I absolutely agree that these guys are fantastic and do impressive work, although in a misguided direction in my opinion. I do not, however, agree that minor decision changes will cut it. Moving ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Wed, 2014-08-20 21:45
On Aug 18, 2014 6:04 AM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. Even though I am helplessly underskilled I've decided to see what spontaneous generationof application compilations in pkgsrc might end up producing. So far 800 so packages but not anything impressive yet. I know I have some Star Trek fonts and a few text browsers. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Wed, 2014-08-20 19:45
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:03:37PM +0200, Sia Lang wrote: Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. Hi, We made a lot of progress since 2007. There were four alpha releases already, and we added support for WiFi, package management, and a modern web browser. This is quite an achievement for our small team of developers. ...
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[haiku-development] What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Wed, 2014-08-20 19:45
Back in 2007, in his goodbye letter, Phipps assessed that we're almost there. That's seven years ago, and I unfortunately think his assessment today would be about the same. Maybe I'm wrong, as I find it hard to figure out the actual state of Haiku. On my machine, it kinda works, but there's clearly also several critical bugs. Could someone please give the audience a rough estimate on when to expect the first release? I'm asking this in no small part due to having a working prototype BeOS API ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (François Revol)

Wed, 2014-08-20 19:45
On 18/08/2014 07:54, Thomas Mueller wrote: from Ingo Weinhold and my last message: On 17.08.2014 04:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: There is another problem, HOST_SFDISK ?= sfdisk ; which does not exist in NetBSD or FreeBSD base system. I think it is (was?) used in the ARM build. It isn't used in the regular x86* builds, so you can ignore it, if you want to focus on those. ...
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[haiku-development] Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (Thomas Mueller)

Wed, 2014-08-20 17:45
from Ingo Weinhold and my last message: On 17.08.2014 04:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: There is another problem, HOST_SFDISK ?= sfdisk ; which does not exist in NetBSD or FreeBSD base system. I think it is (was?) used in the ARM build. It isn't used in the regular x86* builds, so you can ignore it, if you want to focus on those. Seeing HOST_SFDISK in BuildConfig made me nervous. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Release manager (Humdinger)

Wed, 2014-08-20 15:45
Hi Daniel! On 17 August 2014 05:32, Daniel Stritt danielstritt@xxxxxxx wrote: Anywhere I can go to learn proper ways of how to submit patches for review? For this info and more, have a look at the dev wiki [1]. Nice to see you uncloak from lurk-mode. :) Regards, Humdinger ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Haiku build fails on HAIKU_NO_DOWNLOADS: updated (Ingo Weinhold)

Wed, 2014-08-20 15:45
On 17.08.2014 04:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: There is another problem, HOST_SFDISK ?= sfdisk ; which does not exist in NetBSD or FreeBSD base system. I think it is (was?) used in the ARM build. It isn't used in the regular x86* builds, so you can ignore it, if you want to focus on those. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Release manager (Daniel Stritt)

Wed, 2014-08-20 13:45
I have been a programmer for a while, still learning the BeAPI, but it's going smoothly. Maybe I will tackle a bug or 2 to see if I can do it. Anywhere I can go to learn proper ways of how to submit patches for review? Thanks Daniel On Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:21 PM, Augustin Cavalier ...
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