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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Ingo Weinhold)

Fri, 2014-05-09 19:45
On 23.04.2014 20:15, Augustin wrote: On Apr 23, 2014 12:33 PM, Jonathan Schleifer js-haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: (Though we might patch Clang to emit GCC2 ABI code (it already has partial support for that) so that we could get rid of hybrid builds) Wait, really? No more GCC2?! ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Augustin)

Fri, 2014-05-09 16:45
On Apr 23, 2014 12:33 PM, Jonathan Schleifer js-haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: (Though we might patch Clang to emit GCC2 ABI code (it already has partial support for that) so that we could get rid of hybrid builds) Wait, really? No more GCC2?! I think the way I'll advocate is obvious... -waddlesplash ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Ingo Weinhold)

Fri, 2014-05-09 16:45
On 23.04.2014 18:18, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: I'd like to vote on how we progress on the compiler front. Currently, PPC does not build with GCC 4.8, so we might either switch to Clang or try if the recently released GCC 4.9 fixes those problems. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Jonathan Schleifer)

Fri, 2014-05-09 16:45
Am 23.04.2014 um 19:32 schrieb Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx: We usually only vote when absolutely necessary, i.e. when a decision needs to be reached and a consensus cannot be found (respectively there isn't an option obviously favored by a majority). So, generally the process starts with an informal discussion. If a decision cannot be reached, a vote is suggested (the options may need to be discussed), and finally a formal vote is held (*). CU, Ingo ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Ingo Weinhold)

Fri, 2014-05-09 16:45
On 23.04.2014 18:33, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Am 23.04.2014 um 18:31 schrieb Jérôme Duval jerome.duval@xxxxxxxxx: Was there any discussion happening on this subject? Because it looks to me there wasn't any. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Jonathan Schleifer)

Fri, 2014-05-09 16:45
Am 23.04.2014 um 18:31 schrieb Jérôme Duval jerome.duval@xxxxxxxxx: Was there any discussion happening on this subject? Because it looks to me there wasn't any. There never was a discussion whether we should keep GCC or switch to Clang, hence this vote, so we know what the majority of the developers wants :). GCC or Clang is mostly a thing of personal preference these days. -- ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Jonathan Schleifer)

Fri, 2014-05-09 16:45
Am 23.04.2014 um 18:18 schrieb Jonathan Schleifer js-haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxx: 1.) Aim to switch to Clang long-term and drop GCC eventually 2.) Keep and upgrade GCC and keep Clang as an unsupported option Oh, I should note: This does *NOT* affect GCC2! This is only for architectures that use GCC4 right now! (Though we might patch Clang to emit GCC2 ABI code (it already has partial ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Jérôme Duval)

Fri, 2014-05-09 14:45
2014-04-23 18:18 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Schleifer js-haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxx: I'd like to vote on how we progress on the compiler front. Was there any discussion happening on this subject? Because it looks to me there wasn't any. Bye, Jérôme ...
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[haiku-development] Switch to Clang or GCC 4.9? (Jonathan Schleifer)

Fri, 2014-05-09 14:45
Hi! I'd like to vote on how we progress on the compiler front. Currently, PPC does not build with GCC 4.8, so we might either switch to Clang or try if the recently released GCC 4.9 fixes those problems. Clang is already working fine on x86. Building the bootloader, kernel and userland works and produces a running system. There are some minor issues, but nothing that prevents you from using it. ...
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[haiku-development] bug tracker (Michael Mounteney)

Fri, 2014-05-09 02:45
For those who aren't on the general haiku mailing list, here's a summary of a thread started there: From me: Hello, here is an offer of help. Although I'm a programmer, I already program for eight hours a day as my job so frankly the last thing I want to do in my scant leisure time is more programming. However, it occurs to me, looking at the bug ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Administrative notice: new SSH host keys for our machines (Oliver Tappe)

Fri, 2014-05-09 00:45
Hi again, On 2014-04-14 at 18:34:29 [+0200], Oliver Tappe zooey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: since our ssh host keys could in theory have been compromised (and were pretty weak to start with), I have created a new 4096-bit long RSA host key for each of baron, vmrepo, vmdev and vmweb. as I have just learned that ssh keeps prefering the old ECDSA key over the ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Administrative notice: new SSH host keys for our machines (Jonathan Schleifer)

Fri, 2014-05-09 00:45
Am 16.04.2014 um 10:23 schrieb Oliver Tappe zooey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: I find it pretty difficult to judge the exact effects of heartbleed, so I've decided this is a good time to follow your advice (you were the one pointing out the weakness of our ssh host keys in the first place) and rotate the keys. Ah. OpenSSH is completely unaffected by Heartbleed as Heartbleed is only affecting the TLS protocol. OpenSSH only links against OpenSSL's libcrypto, but not against libssl :). But yes, changing the weak RSA key was a necessity anyway. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Administrative notice: new SSH host keys for our machines (Oliver Tappe)

Thu, 2014-05-08 22:45
Hi, On 2014-04-16 at 01:06:36 [+0200], Jonathan Schleifer js-haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Am 14.04.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Oliver Tappe zooey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Hi there, since our ssh host keys could in theory have been compromised (and were pretty weak to start with), ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Administrative notice: new SSH host keys for our machines (Jonathan Schleifer)

Thu, 2014-05-08 08:45
Am 14.04.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Oliver Tappe zooey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Hi there, since our ssh host keys could in theory have been compromised (and were pretty weak to start with), Can you elaborate what happened? If for security reasons you don't want to make the actual issue public, it would be nice if you could send me a private mail. ...
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[haiku-development] Administrative notice: new SSH host keys for our machines (Oliver Tappe)

Thu, 2014-05-08 08:45
Hi there, since our ssh host keys could in theory have been compromised (and were pretty weak to start with), I have created a new 4096-bit long RSA host key for each of baron, vmrepo, vmdev and vmweb. The change on vmrepo will affect all developers, as git is using ssh to connect to it when pulling/pushing. So, in order to simplify the process, the old keys are going to stay active until end of this month. In order to be able to switch to the new host key when the old ones have been deleted, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Commit access for Jessica Hamilton (Jessica Hamilton)

Thu, 2014-05-08 06:45
On 7 April 2014 21:54, Oliver Tappe zooey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hi there, On 2014-04-07 at 01:13:58 [+0200], Rene Gollent anevilyak@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Apr 4, 2014 7:13 AM, PulkoMandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello everyone, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Commit access for Jessica Hamilton (Oliver Tappe)

Sat, 2014-05-03 11:45
Hi there, On 2014-04-07 at 01:13:58 [+0200], Rene Gollent anevilyak@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Apr 4, 2014 7:13 AM, PulkoMandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello everyone, This is a proposal for granting commit access to Jessica Hamilton. Belated +1. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Commit access for Jessica Hamilton (Rene Gollent)

Sat, 2014-05-03 09:45
On Apr 4, 2014 7:13 AM, PulkoMandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello everyone, This is a proposal for granting commit access to Jessica Hamilton. Belated +1. Regards, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Commit access for Jessica Hamilton (Stephan Aßmus)

Sat, 2014-05-03 09:45
Hi, Am 04.04.2014 13:12, schrieb PulkoMandy: This is a proposal for granting commit access to Jessica Hamilton. Over the last two years, Jessica provided several patches to Haiku ( ) as well as pointed out smaller errors over IRC that didn't need a patch to fix (and are hard to track back now). ...
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