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[haiku-development] Re: AW: What's the status of Haiku? (Wayne Peter Corwin)

Sun, 2014-08-31 00:45
While it all takes longer than wanted, and originally anticipated, I'm confident that we'll reach that goal eventually. Eventually doesn't have any value though. But good luck and I'm hoping for a better state of affairs next time I read an almost-ready article :) Best wishes, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (François Revol)

Sat, 2014-08-30 22:45
I really didn't read the whole thread (instead I fixed the pc_serial driver to use the current tty module, just sayin...), but... The second surprise is that package development has appeared to have declined since it was put in place. It took me some time to get interested in packaging, but then I had a packaging rush recently, because I wanted many things available on my other machines. Of course it did slow down work on other sides but it's still useful. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (pulkomandy)

Sat, 2014-08-30 20:45
The second surprise is that package development has appeared to have declined since it was put in place. That's not what I see here. The new package management system (and the more strict HaikuPorter) allowed us to identify a lot of problems with our existing packages, and we have spent some time running through them and fixing the issues. This is indeed time not spent working on new packages, but it's a good thing in the long term. While it needs a bit more developer effort to get packages right, it needs much less efforts for users to install the packages. One can't go without the ...
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[haiku-development] Re: AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (James Leone)

Sat, 2014-08-30 20:45
On Aug 29, 2014 12:19 AM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Ryan wrote: I think if there is to be any hope, there needs to be some serious focus. No more going off on wild tangents like the package management. An amazing amount of work (and quite a bit of money) went into that and if we are really honest it probably was not as important as it was made out to ...
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[haiku-development] Re: NetFS settings (pulkomandy)

Sat, 2014-08-30 20:45
I suppose ideally activating the package should show a Deskbar notification that something has to be configured, with a link that opens the respective GUI preflet. I don't know, if our notifications API supports that. It does. Use notify --onClickApp from a script to run an app by signature. BNotification has a similar API. Arguments can be passed, and there are options to open a file with the default app or a specific one, too. See notify --help. -- ...
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[haiku-development] AW: Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Axel Dörfler)

Sat, 2014-08-30 20:45
Ryan wrote: I think if there is to be any hope, there needs to be some serious focus. No more going off on wild tangents like the package management. An amazing amount of work (and quite a bit of money) went into that and if we are really honest it probably was not as important as it was made out to be. I completely understand the desire to make it, but if a project manager was trying to ship a product to make money, would they have worked on that or maybe put it off for later? We actually discussed this beforehand, you know. We even had a poll about it, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: NetFS settings (Ingo Weinhold)

Sat, 2014-08-30 18:45
On 29.08.2014 04:42, Sean Healy wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:28:03 -0700, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx wrote: The correct solution is to fix the NetFS source code. Ah, but the problem is not in the NetFS code. It is in cant/remember/the/real/path/driver_settings.cpp, and a change there will affect many other packages. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Humdinger)

Sat, 2014-08-30 16:45
Hi there! On 29 August 2014 06:38, Ryan Leavengood leavengood@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Haiku needs a project manager but that isn't a fun job and tends to cost quite a bit if we wanted to hire someone. I doubt that's what Haiku needs, at least not a manager in the usual sense. Haiku has too few active developers. Why would those few do what they are told by someone? No, if anything we need someone who is able to motivate old and new ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ryan Leavengood)

Sat, 2014-08-30 16:45
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Aug 28, 2014 7:24 PM, David Ferguson dfergatl@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I was referring to WebPositve. I just have a lot of crashes with it. I haven't had Web+ crash in months for me. Perhaps you should try again? While that may be true it is also a bit of nitpicking. People are expressing valid concerns about Haiku. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: NetFS settings (Sean Healy)

Sat, 2014-08-30 16:45
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:28:03 -0700, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Aug 28, 2014 8:52 PM, Sean Healy jalopeura@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: What say you? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Sat, 2014-08-30 14:45
On Aug 28, 2014 7:24 PM, David Ferguson dfergatl@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I was referring to WebPositve. I just have a lot of crashes with it. I haven't had Web+ crash in months for me. Perhaps you should try again? -Augustin ...
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[haiku-development] Re: NetFS settings (Augustin Cavalier)

Sat, 2014-08-30 14:45
On Aug 28, 2014 8:52 PM, Sean Healy jalopeura@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: What say you? The correct solution is to fix the NetFS source code. -Augustin ...
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[haiku-development] NetFS settings (Sean Healy)

Sat, 2014-08-30 12:45
Hi, I am working on converting NetFS to a package. There are a couple of required driver settings files. I checked driver_settings.cpp and found that it checks only the user settings folder, which means I do not have the option of turning these settings files into global settings files. However, while global settings files are automatically installed and/or ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (François Revol)

Sat, 2014-08-30 12:45
On 29/08/2014 00:30, Yourself wrote: So now, I have an hpkg that works. Now I have to get it available. I'm really reluctant to go through the whole HaikuPorter palaver. I've spent several days on what I hoped would be a few hours' job [OK -- learning curve and all that] but it looks like trying to create a recipe -- and getting it accepted -- is going to be a further major messy undertaking that I don't have the time or motivation for at the moment. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (David Ferguson)

Sat, 2014-08-30 10:45
I was referring to WebPositve. I just have a lot of crashes with it. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Yourself pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:39:47PM +0200, Julian Harnath wrote: David Ferguson dfergatl@xxxxxxxxx schrieb: I feel the same way 12 years of waiting, years of almost there I recently download a nightly and while I like it, It crashes a lot. Even ...
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[haiku-development] Re: System Soundfont (Yourself)

Sat, 2014-08-30 08:45
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:42AM +0200, pulkomandy wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 05:46:25PM -0700, I wrote: Afraid I'm still a bit lost. I've been reading but it leaves me unclear as to exactly what lines I should add to the .Packageinfo. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Yourself)

Sat, 2014-08-30 08:45
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:39:47PM +0200, Julian Harnath wrote: David Ferguson dfergatl@xxxxxxxxx schrieb: I feel the same way 12 years of waiting, years of almost there I recently download a nightly and while I like it, It crashes a lot. Even with all the work done on Webkit and Webpositive I can't even begin to count the number of times it has crashed. It being Haiku crashing completely, or applications such as Web+ ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Julian Harnath)

Sat, 2014-08-30 08:45
David Ferguson dfergatl@xxxxxxxxx schrieb: I feel the same way 12 years of waiting, years of almost there I recently download a nightly and while I like it, It crashes a lot. Even with all the work done on Webkit and Webpositive I can't even begin to count the number of times it has crashed. It being Haiku crashing completely, or applications such as Web+ crashing? In the latter case, that has almost certainly nothing to do ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Stephan Aßmus)

Sat, 2014-08-30 06:45
Am 28.08.2014 um 21:58 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: 2014-08-28 21:50 skrev Stephan Aßmus: Hi, Am 28.08.2014 um 21:31 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: So there are 2 places to express what architecture this package are? In the name and architecture: ? It's the name of the package that are the one that are important? No. If you are running a Haiku hybrid with the base system being ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

Sat, 2014-08-30 04:45
2014-08-28 21:50 skrev Stephan Aßmus: Hi, Am 28.08.2014 um 21:31 schrieb Fredrik Modéen fredrik@xxxxxxxxx: So there are 2 places to express what architecture this package are? In the name and architecture: ? ...
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