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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (A. D. Sharpe)

Mon, 2014-08-25 21:45
On 8/22/2014 1:08 PM, Sia Lang wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM, A. D. Sharpe wrote: You know, I probably have no right to comment on this, but I'm sick of people trying to divert the development of other alternative operating systems turn them into yet another Unix ...
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[haiku-development] Renaming folders in ~/config or /system (Humdinger)

Mon, 2014-08-25 21:45
Hi there! TigerKidd asked on IRC about ticket #10123 Add warning alert to critical folders in ~/config [1]. I don't think the ticket as-is is valid anymore. Before changing it, I'd like to discuss how the behaviour should be. Currently there are the read-only folders of the PM in ~/config and /system (e.g. add-ons, bin, lib). Renaming them doesn't work (though Tracker's menu item Edit name isn't ghosted). Deleting results in a ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (pulkomandy)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 09:39:46AM +0200, Fredrik Modéen wrote: Hi I have done a package of VMware 1.1.0 addons but I would like to test it locally. I tried to put it in Home/config/packages/administration (or some thing like that) but it didn't show up in the packagemanager app. So have are this the right location och are the package wrong in any way (Can I debug a package?) When I'm done I would like to have commit access to ...
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[haiku-development] Qustion of the packagemanagment system. (Fredrik Modéen)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
Hi I have done a package of VMware 1.1.0 addons but I would like to test it locally. I tried to put it in Home/config/packages/administration (or some thing like that) but it didn't show up in the packagemanager app. So have are this the right location och are the package wrong in any way (Can I debug a package?) ...
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[haiku-development] Updating my Haiku branch (Fredrik Modéen)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
Hi I some time ago I did this clone of Haiku. ) I have it local on my Haiku building image but now to my question, It's probably a standard GIT question but as scary GIT is and how long a GIT command can be I rather have the answer from some one here :) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Ryan Leavengood)

Mon, 2014-08-25 19:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I think becoming a serious alternative is Haiku's goal too. I agree. That certainly is the case for me. At the end of the day I'm pragmatic and I would *love* for Haiku to be a viable (maybe even great) alternative to Mac OS X or Linux for my day to day work and computer use. The fact that it really isn't even close is a big reason I've lost motivation to work on it (of course I ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Simon Taylor simontaylor1@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Haiku works well on VirtualBox, and that for me is more than enough time for me to boot it up, play with it for a few minutes, remember the “feel” of BeOS that I enjoyed back in the day My goal is a BeOS clone that's a starting point for an OS that can be used daily for serious stuff on a wide variety of hardware. A hobbyist OS to ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Simon Taylor)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
Hi all, I’m amazed at the level of courtesy that has been demonstrated to Sia throughout this discussion, and I thank everyone for that as the thread has touched on some interesting issues around what is “the point” of Haiku and the reasons that motivate the various contributors to work on it. On 22 Aug 2014, at 21:08, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: […] If you read the thread carefully, at least some long-time Haiku project ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Alessandro almir159@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello, I only support Haiku financially (about 50$ for year in donation + about 25$ for year using goodsearch), but in future (not remote future) I would like to become an Haiku developer. I have no right to say anything but I think the decision should be taken from the heads of the project. I like the kernel architecture of Haiku (microkernel) but, I repeat, I ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Alessandro)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
Hello, I only support Haiku financially (about 50$ for year in donation + about 25$ for year using goodsearch), but in future (not remote future) I would like to become an Haiku developer. I have no right to say anything but I think the decision should be taken from the heads of the project. I like the kernel architecture of Haiku (microkernel) but, I repeat, I ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Stephen Hite)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
I'm all for Sia Lang building a side UserLand Haiku on top of a Linux kernel if it trivializes getting modern hardware to work and porting of major development packages such as Qt, Java and Mono to work as seamlessly as they do on Linux. All I personally ever wanted to do on Haiku was to one day be able to develop in C# at the app level using Haiku libs. That's the fascinating part of Haiku (to me) at the user programming level to begin with. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Thomas Mueller)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
You know, I probably have no right to comment on this, but I'm sick of people trying to divert the development of other alternative operating systems turn them into yet another Unix clone, yet another Linux distro, or yet another vehicle for the Linux kernel. It's disgusting very disrespectful of the specific OSes that're being referenced. BeOS, Haiku, AtheOS, Syllable, Pyro, etc. represent a different family of OS. They're not a Unix clone that's perfectly alright. If you want to use the Linux kernel, perhaps you should use an actual Linux distro or start your own. Haiku isn't a Unix clone. It has it's own style, own kernel, own community built around it. Stop trying to kill it's core ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 17:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM, A. D. Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: For comparison, look at the *BSD drivers. I've had more pleasant experiences porting kernel level code from *BSD, than Linux. So I've said Linux or *BSD numerous times. My current work is on top of Linux but I would be fine with a FreeBSD kernel as well (supporting both isn't impossible) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 15:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Augustin Cavalier waddlesplash@xxxxxxxxx wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: There's a substantial, but diminishing group of BeOS fans eager to get a BeOS clone working on their hardware. Not evaluating options to get there in a reasonable timeframe, now, *that* is disrespectful to BeOS fans. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 15:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Not all, but enough to give a fair assessment. I've done kernel work in Linux since 1997 and five years in NetBSD. That gives me a pretty good idea about the driver situation. You obviously have a different way to judge code quality then. People writing drivers are rarely people who work on the actual kernel, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Augustin Cavalier)

Mon, 2014-08-25 15:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Sia Lang silverlanguage@xxxxxxxxx wrote: There's a substantial, but diminishing group of BeOS fans eager to get a BeOS clone working on their hardware. Not evaluating options to get there in a reasonable timeframe, now, *that* is disrespectful to BeOS fans. This is getting old and repetitive. I'm not going to reply to any more messages in this thread, and I encourage the other devs to do the same. When/if you come up with a source-compatible BeAPI-On-Linux that can do ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Sia Lang)

Mon, 2014-08-25 15:45
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM, A. D. Sharpe demetrioussharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: You know, I probably have no right to comment on this, but I'm sick of people trying to divert the development of other alternative operating systems turn them into yet another Unix clone, yet another Linux distro, or yet another vehicle for the Linux kernel. It's disgusting very disrespectful of the specific OSes that're being referenced. BeOS, Haiku, AtheOS, Syllable, Pyro, etc. represent a different family of OS. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (Axel Dörfler)

Mon, 2014-08-25 13:45
On 22.08.2014 19:24, Sia Lang wrote: Not all, but enough to give a fair assessment. I've done kernel work in Linux since 1997 and five years in NetBSD. That gives me a pretty good idea about the driver situation. You obviously have a different way to judge code quality then. People writing drivers are rarely people who work on the actual kernel, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku? (A. D. Sharpe)

Mon, 2014-08-25 13:45
You know, I probably have no right to comment on this, but I'm sick of people trying to divert the development of other alternative operating systems turn them into yet another Unix clone, yet another Linux distro, or yet another vehicle for the Linux kernel. It's disgusting very disrespectful of the specific OSes that're being referenced. BeOS, Haiku, AtheOS, Syllable, Pyro, etc. represent a different family of OS. They're not a Unix clone that's perfectly alright. If you want to use the Linux kernel, perhaps you should use an actual Linux distro or start your own. Haiku isn't a Unix clone. It has it's own style, own kernel, own community built around it. Stop trying to kill it's core ...
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